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Judicial Watch: First Deposition Devastating to Hillary


Judicial Watch (JW)  has taken it’s first court ordered deposition of the Clinton crime family and it’s not good news for Hillary.  In fact, JW calls it embarrassing to Hillary.  The first to be deposed was Lewis Lukens.  JW President Tom Fitton explained that he can’t reveal much of what was said because depositions are cloaked in secrecy, but he was able to say the testimony didn’t go well for Hillary or for the State Department.


“The testimony was not helpful for Clinton or the State Department.”

Lukens was the deputy assistant secretary of state and  executive directory of the secretariat during Clinton’s time in office.  JW was interested in Lukens because of emails sent during the first week or two into Clinton’s tenure at State.  He had suggested a stand alone computer so that Hillary could email from the executive offices.  He also tried to get a secure BlackBerry for Clinton but she refused it, preferring to use her very vulnerable personal one rather than use a secured on that would retain the emails, which she couldn’t control.

In an email to Huma Abedin, Lukens wrote:

“Also, I think we should go ahead (but will await your green light) and set up a stand-alone PC in the Secretary’s office, connect to the internet (but not through our system) to enable her to check her emails from her desk.”

Federal Judge Emmet Sullivan is the one who ordered the depositions.  He had long been a critic of the way that the State Department was hiding public records from FOIA requests.  Finally, his patience ran out and the depositions taken under oath was his way of sanctioning the State Department.  Even Hillary will be deposed.  Under the agreement the State Department will have three days to examine the depositions for possible national security concerns, which Sullivan would have to agree to and no specific information is to be released by either party before then.

From The Daily Caller:

Lukens is the first of several State Department officials and Clinton aides to be deposed as part of Judicial Watch’s lawsuit. Federal judge Emmet Sullivan approved the interviews as part of the watchdog’s lawsuit seeking records pertaining to Huma Abedin’s employment records. Abedin worked for the Clinton Foundation and the Clinton-connected consulting firm Teneo Strategies at the same time she worked for the State Department.
In order to obtain information pertinent to its lawsuit, Judicial Watch will be also be interviewing Clinton aides Cheryl Mills and Bryan Pagliano, the former State Department information technology specialist who set up and maintained Clinton’s private email server. The group will also interview State Department officials Stephen Mull and Patrick Kennedy, the State Department’s all-powerful under secretary for management.

Mull is the official who sent an email to Kennedy, Mills and Abedin in Aug. 2011 discussing Clinton’s private server. He will be interviewed by Judicial Watch next month. Mills is slated to meet with the group next week. And Kennedy will be the last official deposed. He meets with Judicial Watch on June 29.

Fitton said the schedule for the depositions was set on the availability of the witnesses and not a strategic plan.  He plans on sitting in on every deposition, when he is free to do so.




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