Mike Pence has never exactly been at the forefront of women’s health. Before he was Donald Trump’s vice-presidential nominee, he passed a law in Indiana requiring fetal remains to be cremated or buried, likely at the cost of the patient, whether they were from an abortion or a miscarriage. He’s also blocked funds from Planned Parenthood, tried to shut down abortion clinics, and banned private-insurance coverage of abortion … and he doesn’t exactly get how condoms work, either.

In other words, he’s a blatant opponent of abortion access. So it was unsurprising if still disheartening when he promised to repeal Roe v. Wade should he and Trump be elected. According to the Los AngelesTimes, he said as much during a campaign stop in Grand Rapids, Michigan.

“I’m pro-life and I don’t apologize for it,” he said during a town-hall meeting. “We’ll see Roe vs. Wade consigned to the ash heap of history where it belongs.”

The comment was reportedly part of Pence’s spiel about the power the next president will have to appoint at least one Supreme Court judge (though probably more). Trump has openly promised to appoint pro-life judges, while it’s largely assumed that Clinton’s picks would be more moderate or liberal-leaning.

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